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Max
03/24/2007 12:22 PM

Wondering if there is interest, and if there is, I will flesh it out some more.

The concept is that there is a secret organization that deals with paranormal/magical/whatever operations within the real world. The setting would be the world which we know today, and you could be any regular joe-schmoe in any place in the world.

The leaders of this organization are not big-wigs in companies, they are not top-secret governmental leaders. They are regular people, but within the organization they wield a great amount of power, and they do have contacts within the government, but no members are high-up in the governmental construct (there may be a few secretaries or lobbyists or something, but no titles with actual power).

There would be no magic, no special abilities, nothing of that sort, at first. Over time, they would begin to develop, but no two characters would have access to the same stuff.

What do you guys think?

nanuk
03/24/2007 1:55 PM

It's definitely something I'd find interesting.

Being Lichy's occultist giving you ideas, eh? ;)

Max
03/24/2007 1:58 PM


Being Lichy's occultist giving you ideas, eh? ;)



I have no idea what you're talking about....

*innocent look*

:D

Orion
03/25/2007 9:48 AM

Its a concept that I believe if fleshed out, could make for a good rp romp, hit me with the 411.

Max
03/25/2007 12:51 PM

Okay, so preliminaries...

We are in the world as we know it. What we don't know (or rather, a select few do) is that we are not in a universe, but a multiverse that is finite, but the total number of 'verses is huge and unknown so many consider it to be infinite. Now, these are not parallel as other fantasy worlds have, but rather they are interconnected and jumbled, making up a multidimensional puzzle of sorts. Each universe crosses others, but not all are interconnected.

Where these 'verses make contact, there is greater chance of crossing from one 'verse to another. These places, on our world, are places that many hold reverence for: The Great Pyramids of Egypt, Mecca, Stonehenge, or even a back-woods waterfall where one feels a compulsion for spirituality. Alternatively, they could be places of great disaster: Auschwitz-Birkenau, the WTC, Tianneman Square, and other sites. (Ah, this is bad...I can't think of any more historical places, farther back in history. If you have an idea, just pitch it to me and I'll see if it fits.)

I'm looking for this to be based in the real world, with this multiverse and the intersections of them being able to explain mythological and religious stories.

As far as characters: anybody not in a situation of power. You can be the kid in the drive through window, the homeless guy, the secretary, the cop, the rich kid who everybody hates but envies...anybody, so long as you are not in a position of power.

As far as connection...you can either have a traumatic experience (or a very serious experience...it doesn't have to be bad, but it has to be life-altering) in one of the afore-mentioned spots, or it can be in your bloodline. The idea that semi-sparked this was a person whose ancestral grand-parents (with a few greats in there) were Lilith and Cain.


As far as the powers...they would basically be instances where the universes merge/cross. You may be able to summon things via incantations and diagrams, or you may be able to call upon a being from another plane to inhabit your body (which would be a historical case of demon-posession, when you lose control), granting extra strength, reflexes, etc. Or you may be able to control elemental substances via physics laws that exist on another plane but not our own, or you may be able to imbue objects on this plane with substances form another. Almost anything is up for grabs, right now. If you have an idea, pitch it and I'll say if it fits or not.

Think historical context, and think present day applicability. You can use actual legends and myths that we know of, and link them into the story.

The basic plotline will be you guys are going through life as normal, until either your 'abilities' activate or a member of the organization realizes that you have the potential and you are 'recruited.' And by recruited I mean you really won't have an option. :D

The organization will have contacts and will have been active throughout recorded history, and all of the major events (and even some events that are not publicly known) have been influenced by them.


So that was a bit long...anybody still interested?

nanuk
03/25/2007 2:40 PM

Moreso, if anything.

To steal from Nova (who had a little help with it)- very niiice.

really like it.
Shall go to bed (cursed time differences) thinking of myths.



I can't think of any more historical places, farther back in history. If you have an idea, just pitch it to me and I'll see if it fits


Pol Pot's killing fields? That was pretty gruesome.
Elmina 'Slave Castle' in Ghana- it was on the news today marking the British Abolition of slavery. Horrible to think of the number of people who were passed through there and never returned.
Um..the Colisseum? I sat there for about three hours when I was in Rome, just watching people walk around in the sunshine, imagining what had gone on right under where they were standing.
I'm too tired, my brain's already in stand-by mode.

Your idea has me all fired up though, so hopefully I'll have at least the sketching of a character by tomorrow

Max
03/25/2007 2:49 PM

Any of those would work, although the Coliseum would need a good back-story, because it was more of an entertainment thing. Yes, lots of people died and were killed, but it was for entertainment. It was the ancient Roman movie theatre, in a sense.

Of course, that may be a part of it, the fact that such atrocities were viewed as sport...

Anyways...

Any other takers?

Dexter_Attari
03/25/2007 3:04 PM

(this is totaly off topic but I can't help myself)

Atrocities viewed as sport? Sort of like Cribs right?

nanuk
03/25/2007 11:57 PM

I don't get that reference.



Of course, that may be a part of it, the fact that such atrocities were viewed as sport...


That was mainly what I was going for- that thousands died for the whims of others. At least in a war people often have the illusion that they're fighting for a cause, but to die as sport..



but it was for entertainment. It was the ancient Roman movie theatre, in a sense.


I know what it was, lol.

nanuk
03/26/2007 2:50 AM

Oh also- whatever powers, if any, one has, once manifested due to a link to a place would they be able to be called upon again anywhere i.e. I'm assuming that you don't need to be at the exact same place again, lol.

And do they have to manifest straight away or could it be more gradual? Like.. a slow awakening, almost?
(Does it seem like I have something specific in mind ;) )

Max
03/26/2007 8:41 AM

Once you have had the initial awakening, it can be done anywhere, because it imparts a connection on your soul.

And as far as the speed at which it manifests, it can be anything. It could lie dormant for years, it could explode right away, or it could slowly come out...each person is different, like I said. It could even come out all at once upon the initial 'awakening,' but then be semi-dormant as the person learns to call upon it and control it.

nanuk
03/26/2007 9:33 AM

Grand.
I pretty much have my introductory post done, lol, so hopefully it doesn't take too long to get off the ground. ;)

might pm my brother actually, think he might be interested and he's only involved in the Silent Hill thread so far..

Max
03/27/2007 8:04 PM

Sweet.

Umm...I'll make up the thread tomorrow or the night after, and it looks like it'll just be you and me in the beginning. Hopefully others will see how amazing it is, and join in a bit. ;)

Question...your first post is completely'normal,' without even a hint of the manifestation of any powers, correct?

That's what I would like ideally. A post or two to establish the character and their 'normal' life, and then they get pulled in.


So, like I said, I will post it up within the next couple of days. I've been so busy thinking up possibilities of powers and the organization of the 'verses and the possible different 'verses and all of the technical aspects of the world that I haven't even thought of a character to introduce with, so I should probably do that, huh?

:D

nanuk
03/28/2007 4:36 AM

yeah, probably, lol.



Question...your first post is completely'normal,' without even a hint of the manifestation of any powers, correct?


Yup. No powers.
A hint that maybe something in the future will be up, but no overt (or covert, for that matter) powers, no major event.
Depending on what you post initially it may of course change, but I've the character pretty much fleshed out.
I may eventually steal some of your power suggestions, lol, but I'm not into playing ubers. (That's why I didn't end up posting in the mutation thread, a few of the starter characters seemed way too powerful- you seem to be coping just fine though ;) )

Lich_Nexus
03/28/2007 8:47 PM


but I'm not into playing ubers. (That's why I didn't end up posting in the mutation thread, a few of the starter characters seemed way too powerful- you seem to be coping just fine though ;) )


You disgust me.

"I got a cool D&D character... 10th level Expert with 13 ranks in diplomacy, Perform; dancing, and disguise.... oh a craft; cheesemaking!!!! As if the balor is in the monster manuel because of the pretty picture.

Fucking gamer girls...

Max
03/28/2007 9:09 PM


"I got a cool D&D character... 10th level Expert with 13 ranks in diplomacy, Perform; dancing, and disguise.... oh a craft; cheesemaking!!!! As if the balor is in the monster manuel because of the pretty picture.



Hahaha...that's an awesome character. You'll just talk the Balor to death while warding it off with a "Moldy Gouda(gorgonzola? I don't know...some kind of cheese that starts with 'g' is supposedly really bad smelling) Cheese Cloud of Protection, 10' Radius."

nanuk
03/29/2007 6:56 AM

Screw you, Lichy.
Disguise is a fab skill and you know it.


Being able to kill every living thing on the planet with barely a sneeze is fine but doesn't exactly make for longevity of gaming experience.

You're such a tonze.

Lich_Nexus
03/29/2007 9:02 PM

Oh... it's on now girley!

Disguise is a good, to get the prerequisite ranks to become an Assassin! Other than that, it's superfluous when one can buy a wand of [i]alter self[/i] for 350 gold peices! Now bluff, that a great frickin skill!

I'm not saying easily defeated a balor is fun, i'm saying it takes an uber-character to fight an uber-villian like a balor. Ass!

What is a tonze? Did you call me a choad!

You're a tonze, tonze... i bet you are the type that cringes if an adventure starts off with a good bar brawl! And who cares if you level is way higher, bashing orcs is great!

[Edited by Lich_Nexus on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:04 PM]

nanuk
03/30/2007 7:39 AM


And who cares if you level is way higher, bashing orcs is great!


But it gets BORING!
Even in computer games- like at the moment I'm trying to finish off some of the marks (like bounties) in FF12, and I'm having to go to areas where I'm killing everything that spawns in one hit- and getting 3 exp for doing it. Boring!

You know I'm right, you tonze.




buy a wand of [i]alter self[/i] for 350 gold peices!


Pfft.
What is it's dispelled?
Or runs out of charges if you want it?
Or you're in an anti-magic zone or somesuch.

No such problems with clay putty and hair dye.

You know I'm right, you tonze.

Max
03/30/2007 9:56 AM

Ok, I have to ask, because I'm an idiot.

What's a tonze?

RedTim
03/30/2007 10:35 AM


I'm not saying easily defeated a balor is fun, i'm saying it takes an uber-character to fight an uber-villian like a balor. Ass!


Spot the munchkin :) I like a challenge that you can't solve just by hitting it with a big hammer, myself. Or just by slinging quickened magic missiles at it. OTOH, I do enjoy a good brawl (in RP, I hasten to add - in real life, I [i]never/i] sling magic missiles at anything).

nanuk
03/30/2007 10:47 AM


What's a tonze?


Would you respect me less if I said I didn't know? ;)

It's just a general term for a jackass. No idea where it came from. Tried to find it online and all I came up with was a company in China, lol.



in real life, I [i]never/i] sling magic missiles at anything).


Yeah, yeah..

Tim.. go check out Max's thread of this in the general RP.. you know you want to.. and we've been left high and dry in Fireflay so what have you got that's better to do?... mwahahah..

Lich_Nexus
03/30/2007 2:40 PM


But it gets BORING!
Even in computer games- like at the moment I'm trying to finish off some of the marks (like bounties) in FF12, and I'm having to go to areas where I'm killing everything that spawns in one hit- and getting 3 exp for doing it. Boring!

You know I'm right, you tonze.


Whoa, lets back up a bit. We ain't talking about frickin FF12. We are talking about D&D. I'm sure you've seen the Wizard of Oz, and can recollect the marching guards at the Wicked Witch of the West's castle. Their chant. Metallica does a slightly better version for the intro to Frayed Ends of Sanity. I looped that a few times and played it for them as I informed them of the chanting orc platton busting out some classic Stripes formation boom-shaka-laka-laka boom-shaka-laka-laka boom-shaka-laka-laka BOOM, "Armiiiiie traiiiiining siiiiiir!"

I believe the first expression from my players was an -oh fuck-. Perhaps you have no idea in what i speak of, but I can assure you, the next following three hours they were not bored at all.



Pfft.
What is it's dispelled?
Or runs out of charges if you want it?
Or you're in an anti-magic zone or somesuch.

No such problems with clay putty and hair dye.

You know I'm right, you tonze.


Pfft.
What if it rains?

Have fun trying to sneak into a Drow city with clay putty and hair dye. However, if you want to paste on a goat-t and have an easily removed over coat to be able to slip the town guards, I'm sure your methods would be adequate.

Tonze.

Lich_Nexus
03/30/2007 3:01 PM


Spot the munchkin :) I like a challenge that you can't solve just by hitting it with a big hammer, myself. Or just by slinging quickened magic missiles at it. OTOH, I do enjoy a good brawl (in RP, I hasten to add - in real life, I [i]never[/i] sling magic missiles at anything).


Whoa... lets back up a bit. You need to go fill out your registry profile. I am assuming you're a novice at D&D as a seasoned vet would know that throwing around "munchkin" in a D&D discussion is an equivilent to throwing around "stupid mother-fucker" in a philisophical discussion. Also, stating, [i]"I like a challenge that you can't solve just by hitting it with a big hammer.... Or just by slinging quickened magic missiles at it"[/i] in regards to an encounter with a Balor is most absurd. Now I'm assuming your D&D experience hasn't progressed beyond Dragonlance.

And it's just such a waste to have a discussion based on assumptions.

[Edited by Lich_Nexus on Friday, March 30, 2007 3:02 PM]

nanuk
03/30/2007 3:18 PM

Yeowch. Lich's in a bad mood tonight.

Tonze.



We ain't talking about frickin FF12. We are talking about D&D


Well actually, initially we were talking about FFRP- you brought the D&D into, so I mentioned the FF as an example because it was one that came readily to mind.
And in D&D even if you are over-levelled for the enemies you're still facing there's still, potentially, the chance that you could get unlucky on your rolls. In FFRP there isn't that hazard- if someone writes that they've a power that lets them control the will and actions of anybody in the entire world EVA' there's little to stop them doing that, which means that there's a very strong possibility of taking the peril, and thus excitement out of the thread.
Of course, if you had good RPers they'd self-regulate, and build in limitations to this power so that it wouldn't be used often or at all (Cold War nuclear threat scenario, stalemate), but you don't always get RPers who are willing to do that.
Hence the boring factor, and my original point.

Tonze :P

Lich_Nexus
03/31/2007 3:19 AM


Yeowch. Lich's in a bad mood tonight.

Tonze.


Nope, I just take my D&D seriously! I'm being light-hearted bad moodish, in a playful manner. But remember Slothrop? Our social intereaction in this forum started the day he called me a munchkin!

I am serious about the registry part though, it helps to know how much one knows about D&D. For all I know, he is unaware a Balor is the D&D equivalent of LotR's Balrog... like you.

Tonze!


In FFRP there isn't that hazard- if someone writes that they've a power that lets them control the will and actions of anybody in the entire world EVA' there's little to stop them doing that, which means that there's a very strong possibility of taking the peril, and thus excitement out of the thread.
Of course, if you had good RPers they'd self-regulate, and build in limitations to this power so that it wouldn't be used often or at all (Cold War nuclear threat scenario, stalemate), but you don't always get RPers who are willing to do that.
Hence the boring factor, and my original point.


I agree, althought again, if in the FFRP, you're fighting uber-villians, there is nothing wrong with playing an uber-character, as long as one conceeds in the fact they're not indestructable and will get some ass kicking done on them as well. For all purposes, Aragorn, Legolas, and Grimli are epic level, and that didn't fuck up the plot.

Max
03/31/2007 8:55 AM

So Lich, you're going to check out my thread in the General RP now that you've spammed up my idea thread, right? :P

nanuk
03/31/2007 9:21 AM

yeah, tizotally.





he is unaware a Balor is the D&D equivalent of LotR's Balrog... like you.


I know what a balor is you tonze. Even an erinyes.
I'm totally bloodwar savvy :P



For all purposes, Aragorn, Legolas, and Grimli are epic level, and that didn't fuck up the plot.


Because you've characters like the hobbits that [i]aren't[/i] epic and so maintain the peril. Also things like uber Gandalf vs uber Balrog so uberosity cancels. And there's enough going on with the plot elsewhere that you don't have to worry about things being too pedestrian.
And anyway, Aragorn and Lego are hotties so there's no chance of boredom there ;)

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