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Avenging_Angel
11/13/2005 6:50 PM

I've kind of been in a role-playing slump lately, so I decided to try and "get back in the groove".

With what? A classic fantasy RP, of course!

Ahem, so, right. The plot will start off simple: the characters are, one way or another, hired to guard the city ruler's daughter to a wedding in a neighbouring nation. Obviously, I've got a few twists up my sleeve....

The setting is pretty typical fantasy, though, since a few stereotypes annoy the crap out of me anymore, a little twisted.

Mostly, the elves. Egads, I -hate- the pseudo-tolkienite elves!
So, the elves of this realm are a little different. The primary two types seen are the plains elves, close allies with humans, and swamp elves. The other three types are desert elves (rarely seen this far north), forest elves (closest to pseudo-tolkienite), and mountain elves (violent, cranky, isolationists).

No particular feud between elves and dwarves. Swamp elves in fact get along quite well with dwarves (they see eye-to-eye on the science of drinking VERY well).

Goblins are not particularly stupid, either.
No official schools of magic, mostly passed from master to apprentice(s).
Half-elves, while not really shunned, are generally something of a delicate matter, a slight embarassment along the lines of an illegitimate child and whatnot.

Anyhoo, anybody interested? Don't worry, newbies are welcomed.

Tarott
11/14/2005 1:53 AM

I know how you feel. I'll join, but I'd like to bring my interdimensional character. He isn't futuristic, just normal. Only catch is, he's an angelbreed. That means exactly the way it sounds....... You can refuse me if you want, I'll just make another character

Dark_Master
11/14/2005 11:10 AM

Might possibly be interested....will see if I can rumage up a character!

Ashlah
11/14/2005 11:33 AM

Sounds interesting and i've not got much to do 'role playing' wise so i'll join. Although could you give more information regarding what sorts elves you'd prefer and what you don't want and information on what sorts of magic you allow, if you get my meaning. And i know you said, 'classical fantasy' but i'd just like to get info on those two subjects beause it makes creating a character simpler.
Thanks

Avenging_Angel
11/14/2005 7:24 PM

Tarott:

Eh, well.....not to sound mean, but I'd really prefer not for the interdimensional character, though is he from another fantasy setting?

Dark_Master:
Wow! Long time no see! Welcome aboard:D

Ashlah:

As for elves, well, doesn't really matter. Mountain elves and desert elves are less common, but allowable.
Magic is pretty typical D&D style, don't want to get particularly specific on it. No particular branches aside from typical elements magic (fire, water, earth, air) and necromancy.

Classical fantasy...uh...well, it's just your typical fantasy. Dragonlance is a good example of it, as is Forgotten Realms. (though, this is in neither setting)

Tarott
11/14/2005 11:48 PM

He was from a fantasy setting...... LONG STORY!!! I'll see if I can rummage up a new char

Avenging_Angel
11/16/2005 9:59 PM

Okie dokes, can't wait to see:)

Kitiara_dragonlord
11/25/2005 10:29 PM

Well, I was hoping I could join but I hope I'm not too late. I think this might be fun. I'll try to think of a character now...

[Edited by Kitiara_dragonlord on Friday, November 25, 2005 10:31 PM]

Damien
11/26/2005 12:05 AM

Just a question (and one we can discuss elsewhere if you find it inappropriate to do so here) but:

How can you call it 'classic' fantasy and at the same time say you hate pseudo-Tolkienite Elves? Tolkien-ish Elves are the quintessential piece of classic fantasy. Lord of the Rings is -the- classic fantasy. What you're describing is the anti-thesis to classical fantasy in many ways.

I mean.. swamp elves? It seems contradictory. The worst thing you can do is take a label like 'Elf' and think it can be applied universally. The concept of the modern fantasy Elf is based heavily on Tolkien's influence. If it bears nothing in common with either that archetype or the 'fearie' archetype it sprung from... it's not an Elf.. it's something completely different, is it not?

In my book, that's functionally no different from having skinny, 7-foot Dwarves that hate alcohol, cannot grow beards, and don't like to fight or go underground.


If it's 'classic' fantasy, it has to adhere to what classical fantasy entails. If it doesn't... it's something else entirely, more of a 'neo-classical fantasy,' perhaps.


Also, a few things of interest:



Goblins are not particularly stupid, either.


Strangely, stupid Goblins is an archetype of modern fantasy (D&D, for example) but it's something that is not found in the 'classical' fantasy of Tolkien, where Goblins may be crude, but they're not stupid.



No official schools of magic, mostly passed from master to apprentice(s).


This is a pretty classical-fantasy idea. The 'schools of magic' is a pretty new concept, relatively speaking, not found in the 'classics' like Tolkien, Black Company, or Hyboria.



Half-elves, while not really shunned, are generally something of a delicate matter, a slight embarassment along the lines of an illegitimate child and whatnot.


Again, this seems in direct opposition to the 'classical' fantasy image of 'goodly people are goodly people and Half-Elves are a thing to inspire awe.. a mating of the great Elves and the humble but powerful race of Man.'




The primary two types seen are the plains elves, close allies with humans, and swamp elves. The other three types are desert elves (rarely seen this far north), forest elves (closest to pseudo-tolkienite), and mountain elves (violent, cranky, isolationists).


Too many subdivisions of Elves. It's a wicked pain-in-the-ass D&Dism to have fourty different 'breeds' of Elf. Oddly enough this started as a misrepresentation of Tolkien Elves, which are sub-divided into the various houses and histories, but not by breed, since most Elves are essentially exactly the same (from a physiological and partly-attitudal standpoint).

And personally, I just find it distasteful and annoying to subdivide any 'race' into so many 'sub-races.'






since a few stereotypes annoy the crap out of me


There's a difference between 'stereotype' and 'archetype.' An archetype gives us a frame of reference and a commonality that makes immersion into a fantasy setting easier. A stereotype, while not always bad, is a preconception based on nothing really. Elves being snotty is a stereotype. Elves being beautiful is an archetype. One might say that archetypes are not just a thing, but really 'define' what X -is- in any fantasy setting. Ugly Elves, for example, break the archetype and you'd be hard-pressed to make your 'new archetype' 'fit' in a person's mind. It would just never register.

NikkiLoveGod
11/27/2005 4:04 AM

I would like to part of this one! I am a beginner, but I hope it is alright with you, as you said.
May I play a dwarf? Something quite like tolkien's dwarfs with an heavy armor. thx!

Avenging_Angel
12/03/2005 10:09 PM

Kitiara_Dragonlord:
Welcome aboard! :)

Damien:

I do not recall either asking for your opinion or wanting it. So, please, do edit your post or delete it-it's taking up a large amount of space.
Also, don't tell other people how to run their RP threads or manage their settings (within reason, of course). It's rather rude.
Thanks!:)

And, as for the title, "classical fantasy with some twists" would have sounded rather ridiculous.


Nikki:
Also welcome aboard!
And, yes, you're quite welcome to play a dwarf. Variety is the spice of life, after all ;)

Avenging_Angel
12/03/2005 11:01 PM

Before I forget, here's a basic character sheet for y'all, since some of us are a bit newer, and some of us are old and don't ever seem to remember everything....yeah, yeah, I know

Name:
Gender:
Race:
Age:
Eyes:
Hair:
Skin/Fur:
Height: (not required)
Weight: (not required)
Build:
Current Location/World
Family Origin:
Alignment:
Occupation:

Background:
Appearance:
Personality:
Weapon(s):
Other(s):


----
And, here are my own characeters:

Name: Triuyn (Try-uwin) Rukbat
Gender: male
Race: swamp elf
Age: 58 (physically about 30 years younger, appears 28 )
Eyes: Dark green
Hair: Pale blonde
Skin/Fur: Tan
Height: around 5'8
Weight: (no specific weight since I'm terrible at calculating weight to height ratio)
Build: Lanky, skinny...not particularly strong, either
Current Location/World: The city where this begins, Dromiena
Family Origin: Small, unnamed village in a swamp
Alignment: Chaotic neutral
Occupation: Mercenary

Background:

A typical case of a young elf getting bored with a life in the swamps. He left when he was 44, with a group of traders. Unfortunately, the traders were attacked by bandits. Triuyn and the majority of the younger people in the caravan were sold.
Eventually, at age 49, he managed to earn his freedom and after going home briefly, took up the life of a sell-sword.

Appearance:
Triuyn often is underestimated due to his shortness and slight build. He carries a rather large sword on his back which is his pride and joy (due to how expensive it was), has fairly long hair.

Personality:
Five years as an "indentured servant" (aka, slave) taught him a lot of patience he was not born with. A life of hard work in the swamps combined with later experiences also taught him to appreciate life, and he cheerfully indulges in it.
He's a hearty drinker, loves food, and something of a lech as well. Generally like people, but if they manage to annoy him, it's difficult to get back on his "good" side.

Weapon(s):
Longsword, dagger. Can use a bow, but not very well.
Other(s):

[Edited by Avenging_Angel on Saturday, December 3, 2005 11:01 PM]

[Edited by Avenging_Angel on Saturday, December 3, 2005 11:02 PM]

Damien
12/05/2005 10:16 AM


I do not recall either asking for your opinion or wanting it.


I don't recall requiring your permission to give my input.



So, please, do edit your post or delete it-it's taking up a large amount of space.


I'll do no such thing. That post was well-intentioned, genuine, and without malice. If you have such a problem with it, that will have to remain your problem. But I'm not going to do anything that would be construed as an admittance that I've done something wrong, as I have not. If you're adamant about being bitchy about it, go get a Mod and they can wipe your ass for you and tell how how badly you've been wronged, as they are wont to do.



Also, don't tell other people how to run their RP threads or manage their settings


Seems that's the best way to help people make lasting, enjoyable RPs. It's called a -community- after all. Making suggestions, interacting, and sharing ideas seems to be the foundation for internet communication. If you're uncomfortable with that, I'd suggest unplugging your computer immediately.





It's rather rude.


And your response wasn't? Does the word "hypocritical idiot" mean anything to you?



And, as for the title, "classical fantasy with some twists" would have sounded rather ridiculous.


I can assure you that "swamp Elves" sounds pretty ridiculous too.



Edit: Oh, and if your Elves follow the archetype of 'lithe but nearly as strong as an average human' then that would put your character's weight, if female, at about 110-115 pounds, maybe 120 if the character is shapely or particularly well-muscled. You're welcome.



[Edited by Dark_Elf_Damien on Monday, December 5, 2005 1:44 PM]

Kolath
12/07/2005 10:06 PM

hey I'd be Interested could use some more info on all the races so I can choose. thanks

Tarott
12/11/2005 5:17 PM

Wow, there seems to be a bit of history between you two. I'm not going to get into it. Anyway, can I post up my char here or when the RP starts?

Balthazar_Estat
12/12/2005 1:35 PM

Damian, by any chance you not a guy name Baldur? I had a lot of arguments that are alot like the way you post. Thats Baldur from ISOAH.

Damien
12/12/2005 2:50 PM


Damian


Damien.



by any chance you not a guy name Baldur?


I have never gone by any such name, nor do I know anyone that does.




ISOAH.


I have no idea what this is.


For future reference, questions like this should be directed to intra-RPGC e-mail, as it is off-topic and clutters someone else's thread.

Kalia_Majere
12/12/2005 3:11 PM

actually Damien has a point A_A....:( The only thing he did wrong, (and this isn't even really towards the RpgC standards, but to my own... ) was the fact that he tried to give helpful criticisim where it would have the potential to escalate into a flame war.

I'm glad it has yet to escalate to this level, but I'm going to ask you both to drop the subject and take it off the boards.

Avenging_Angel
12/15/2005 7:55 PM

Damien, I have an extremely good idea of where you could shove your post. However, as thread master, I'll ask you simply: please, stop posting in my thread. I don't appreciate it, and I don't want it here. Thank you.



Seems that's the best way to help people make lasting, enjoyable RPs. It's called a -community- after all. Making suggestions, interacting, and sharing ideas seems to be the foundation for internet communication. If you're uncomfortable with that, I'd suggest unplugging your computer immediately.


Yeah, polite suggestions.



And your response wasn't? Does the word "hypocritical idiot" mean anything to you?


Yup. Pops into my head every time I think of you.



Oh, and if your Elves follow the archetype of 'lithe but nearly as strong as an average human' then that would put your character's weight, if female, at about 110-115 pounds, maybe 120 if the character is shapely or particularly well-muscled. You're welcome.


Thanks, much obliged.

And yes, you are correct Tarott...


Kolath: Welcome aboard!

Lunitari0
12/15/2005 8:12 PM

Now that AvA has returned and said her final peace, please, as kalia asked, lets drop the subject. This isn't the place for such a disagrrement.

And, well I'm here - AvA - welcome back.

I'm still considering joining. Any specific character(s) you're looking for?

Damien
12/15/2005 9:28 PM


Now that AvA has returned and said her final peace, please, as kalia asked, lets drop the subject.


So AvA should be allowed to simply insult me and then have it 'left at that?' Nope.






Yeah, polite suggestions.


I'll refer you to Kalia's post:

"actually Damien has a point A_A.... The only thing he did wrong, (and this isn't even really towards the RpgC standards, but to my own... ) was the fact that he tried to give helpful criticisim where it would have the potential to escalate into a flame war."

Whether you -liked- what I had to say or not is irrelevant. It was written with good intent.





Yup. Pops into my head every time I think of you.


So your response is simply a version of "I'm rubber and you're glue?" Childish imbecile.




Damien, I have an extremely good idea of where you could shove your post. However, as thread master, I'll ask you simply: please, stop posting in my thread. I don't appreciate it, and I don't want it here. Thank you.



Here's an idea.. ask me again, nicely and without posting insults before and after.




Man.. you are SUCH a snotty little bitch.









(And yes, I'm aware that Kalia already asked that this be left alone.. but hey.. if AvA gets "one more shot" without consequence, so do I. If AvA doesn't deign to whine, complain, and offer more insults, I'll be happy to let it drop.)



[Edited by Dark_Elf_Damien on Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:38 PM]

Avenging_Angel
12/16/2005 7:46 AM


Whether you -liked- what I had to say or not is irrelevant. It was written with good intent.


I -did- appreciate what you said. I just asked you not to say anymore, since civil conversations with you always seem to degenerate into flame wars.


Please, as I've said before.....just leave me alone.

Lunitari:
Well, do you maybe want to play the person we're escorting? Or perhaps an advisor of some sort to her?

Lunitari0
12/16/2005 8:05 PM


Lunitari:
Well, do you maybe want to play the person we're escorting? Or perhaps an advisor of some sort to her?

The advisor sounds good. ;) Lemme know if your looking for anything specific.

Tarott
12/16/2005 9:37 PM


And yes, you are correct Tarott...



Ummm...... Which one? I gave you two options. You cant SAY thats correct. Sorry, but I still don't know what to do.... NMI!!

Kalia_Majere
12/17/2005 6:49 AM

I will say this once more. Drop the issue or I will lock and remove the thread.

Avenging_Angel
12/17/2005 9:32 PM

Consider it dropped. *thud*



Ummm...... Which one? I gave you two options. You cant SAY thats correct. Sorry, but I still don't know what to do.... NMI!!



Ah, sorry...yes to the second as well, the RP will be starting as soon as everyone has their characters posted, ducks in a row, skeletons put away in the closet, etc.

Kolath
12/18/2005 9:49 PM

AvA are you planning on having any Dwarves available for play? if so could I get some more information on them in this world?

Avenging_Angel
12/22/2005 5:55 PM

Dwarves are quite welcome. Pretty run-of-the mill classic fantasy ones, I ran out of ideas, alas.....

Feel free to embellish a bit, if you like.

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