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xXxDragonLadyxXx
05/06/2006 7:08 PM

FIRST OOC POST: EDIT THIS AT YOUR WILL.

Damien
05/06/2006 11:53 PM

Try actually describing your setting - and the premise of your story so that people can accurately decide whether they'd like to be a part of it at all.

Demon_King
05/09/2006 7:58 PM

well now what do we have here? Another person starting an RP that they shouldn't. Yay! Haven't had one of those in a bit. Well lets start with the fact that you should have put this in the ideas interest query cause its an RP with no storyline and no world to go on. In that way you put it quite a bit of a too loose of an RP cause then players could make some very weird characters which would be almost impossible. Like someone could simply come in saying that they are a one eyed, purple dotted, pink skinned, retarded alien just coming in to look for some earth booty. I may have exxagerated a bit. Just a bit. But still put at least something like if your on earth in some sort of different era or something of the sort. That and this will probably go nowhere just simply of the fact that no one who joins will know what they should do. So then you could end up with five players going after different quests that never meet each other.

Thanis
05/11/2006 11:06 PM

Hey lay off, eh! Yeah so this person didnt put it in the intresting ideas quiery. So what. Its you ppl that come in here and say stuff like this that turns ppl off of joining, just because you said something. Why not just let it go and see if anyone joins out of curiosity or something? After a week or so if no body joins than say something!

SoaringEagle
05/12/2006 12:41 PM

And how about you shut up. Makes sense to me.


Yeah so this person didnt put it in the intresting ideas quiery. So what.


Damien only said that she should describe her setting and tell people about the story. Don't lump him in with Demon_King. Secondly, thats kind of what the Interesting Idea forum is for.


Its you ppl that come in here and say stuff like this that turns ppl off of joining, just because you said something.


Well then we did our job. We don't want people to join who run off at the very first sign of conflict. Those who can handle conflict are welcome to join and usually are active members.


Why not just let it go and see if anyone joins out of curiosity or something? After a week or so if no body joins than say something!


See but the thing is, she never gave info on her setting or her story. So how are people supposed to be curious about a story that they have no idea about? Besides, we can say whatever we want, whenever we want. The only time that we can't is when a member of the staff tells us to knock it off. Personally, if she was to give info on her setting and her story I might actually join if it peaked my interest.

Demon_King, stop trying to be a hard ass. Your not like Damien, you never will be like Damien. And if I remember correctly, you either started or joined threads such as this. So just shut up and sit back. She was already told what she needed to do and there was no reason to jump down her throat. Also, learn how to use paragraphs. Your post was an eyesore to look at.

Thanis, if you've been here long enough then you should know what most of the members expect of a thread. Even if she is a newbie, does it really take that long to check out other threads and see how they are posted? I think not. It's great that you want to be involved in her thread but you should have pointed out what she needed to do in order to get more members interested.

Damien
05/12/2006 3:56 PM


Thanis, i've created my own site, it's at [b]CENSORED[/b] if you're interested


If I recall, only members ranked Membrum or above can post links like this.


Further. . .



fuck it..i give up..


You give up when someone says "post more information about your setting?" Some roleplayer you must be.



but obviously im not welcome here


Not after this latest post, no.




oh and this is my thread isnt it?


Yep. On a community forum that does not belong to you. You have to abide by the rules just like everyone else. Apparently you didn't even bother to look at the guidelines before you posted.




i never said you assholes could go run your mouth off about it!


1.) You never said we couldn't, either.

2.) It's not your place to say. You were given solid advice for how to attract people to your RP. The fact that 'give us more information' offends you so much only proves that you don't belong here.




and even if i did set this up properly i would never let you join after seeing how big of an asshole you people can be.


Oh no. The 13-year-old whiny twit doesn't want me in her RP. Whatever shall I do.




but unlike these people we're nice to everyone and let everyone have their chance and try it out.


I'll point out, once more, that I didn't insult you at all, and was not rude to you. I told you what you needed to do to make the RP worthwhile and to get people interested in it. Jesus.




As for the rest of you...fuck off!


You're a shining example of exactly the reason I think we should still be an invite-only website.

Kalia_Majere
05/12/2006 4:56 PM

first off... this is My area... no one screws around in it either!

Second... I'd appreaciate it if you wouldn't swear, no one used nasty language towards you to begin with, you have no reason to retaliate as such. no one who replied deserved such blatant disrespect.

Third. It is the place of other members (Seasoned members i may add) to give you advice. Damien was in his place to do so.... However, Demon King did go overboard on the criticisim.

Fourth... We have guidelines for new members to see how things are run here... we don't discurage new members or deviant paths from those we set, but we tend (and normally do) Attempt to 'correct' those we feel may too easily fail... we've been here around the net a time or ten and we're trying to help...

Fifth... and final.... If you don't feel this is the place for you and cannot handle such minor criticisims (and belive me, they were MINOR!) then yes, this is not the site for you. also, be prepared to be warned and possibly banned for posting another site without being of the proper 'rank' this is also stated in the rules and guidlines.


Kalia/Heather
Exec. Producer for the FFRP

Dream_Knight
05/12/2006 6:51 PM

Ok, before I intercede here and try to clear the air and do some damage control here... I'll direct the first part of this to xXxDragonLadyxXx first.

I understand why you got mad, but to go off like there really don't help much. It doesn't help with gaining any respect around here. It just comes off as childish to most of the member here. But again, I don't blame you for getting angry to have your thread being hijacked, but loosing your cool like that just doesn't garner much help from other members.

Damien just offered some helpful advice. It should have ended there. Demon_King, unfortunately, decided to go and shoot off his mouth. I apoligize for his sorry excuse for manners.

However, you will, as Damien mentioned, get more interest if you were to be detailed in the RP thread you are trying to create. :) Take a look at our FFRP guides for more information about that and why it's a good idea to try to garner interest in the RP Ideas Interest Query forum first.

Thanks to both Damien and Thanis for trying to help this person out but xXxDragonLadyxXx IS right, this is HER thread and having everyone come in and hijack I would be angry too.

So you all need to just stop being the part of the problem and give some of the new people a chance to fit in and help them. If you don't want to help them productively and just want to come in and smart off? Then don't, please. Let staff or another member help them. If someone already mentioned how to get their RP started then you don't really need to add to the discussion unless you're planning to join the thread. When a person creates an RP thread, it's THEIR RP thread whether or not it's successful for it if it fails, whether or not if it's good or if it sucks. If it fails or sucks, it's gonna go away on an archive anyway.

It's going to be really quiet around here if there's no one to RP with because you all decided to scare everyone off.

So xXxDragonLadyxXx, I'm sorry to see you leave without you having a chance to give it a go here. Good luck with your site.

Chung

P.S. Demon_King, I suggest you work on your own problems before offering advice to other members here.

Thanis
05/13/2006 4:41 AM

Wow, I didnt meen to creat a ruckas of any sort and I think I kinda lit the fuse on it. Damien was right about how to get ppl to join and I wasnt trying to bash him in anyway. But, Demon_King was just being an ass. (Sorry for the language Chung...) All I was trying to do is exactly what Chung did, but he did a WAY better job than my self *All bow in Chung's wake*

xXxDragonLadyxXx
05/13/2006 7:12 AM

Damien:
1. I'm not 13 I'm 15
2. I wasn't mad at you I was mad at Demon_King
3. The only reason why I wasn't putting a lot of description in this is because I had planned on putting this in a book I'm writing. And to just give off every detail would mean it could be potentially copied and I don't want to just throw it out there for anyone to steal and possibly make millions off of.
4. I thank you for your help, Damien, i had meant to post my explanation before, but I'm barely ever on here because I'm still trying to set up my forum site.

Thanis:
1. None of this is your fault lol it's mine
2. Apparently I can't send you the link on here but hopefully it won't censor my email address -- dragon_lady_of_ehvenor@yahoo.com
3. And just in case --dragon_ lady_of_ehvenor at yahoo dot com. lol
4. That's if you're even interested I need lots more members.

Kalia_Majere:
1. That last post was ONLY directed to Demon_King and others like him.
2. Not to seem rude, but my thread is MY possession because it's MY ideas that are in it, NOT yours.
3. If you think "I may too easily fail" then let me. It would only be my fault and problem, which is nothing you need worry about.
4. I can handle criticism, it's Demon_King I can't handle and respectfully ask him to stay out of this thread.

Chung:
1. Thank you for giving probably THE NICEST explanation to me of my problem. But as I've explained to Damien there are reasons I refuse to further describe my setting.
2. You know what, I could probably use this big controversy in my writings, thanks.
3. I WILL describe my setting more and fill in all the details ONLY if there is a way to put a copyright on it.
4. With your permission I'd like to make you a character for my book. I doubt it will ever get published, but it's worth a try, right? The reason for this is because I need a character who is understanding, kind of like Aslan from the Chronicles of Narnia, "I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation."
5. You needn't apologize for Demon_King's sorry excuse for manners, for it should be he who apologizes. It was his doing not yours.
6. Thanis is right, -all bow in Chung's wake- lol

As for the others involved in this stressful argument, I only shot off like that because I've been under stress too much over this past week and wasn't planning to come online to find out someone wants to smart off and be a pain in the..um..butt -with respect to Kalia_Majere-

So thanks to everyone for their help and support, but unless there is someway to copyright my thread there is nothing I can do to make my thread better.

Dream_Knight
05/13/2006 11:17 AM


1. Thank you for giving probably THE NICEST explanation to me of my problem. But as I've explained to Damien there are reasons I refuse to further describe my setting.


Now see, if you would have noted that in the first place then people would have known and it wouldn't have been a big deal. :P lol A simply, "This is going to be based on my own setting but because of copyright information, I don't want o expose more than I should." would work. Damien, I, Kalia, Nova or Silveran would have caught it and maybe give you some helpful advice on what to do about copyright conerns since I know they know something about that since they do their own writings too (and there's alot of other members who are writers here that that can give you some advice)

Speaking of which...


3. I WILL describe my setting more and fill in all the details ONLY if there is a way to put a copyright on it.


There is, you wrote it, it's copyright to you. But that's hard to prove. If you want to make sure then write it out first and print out a copy and send it in to the library of congress and pay a simply fee and have them file it. Or try doing a poor mans copyright and send a copy of it to yourself CERTIFIED and NEVER open it and store it away. This is so you can use it to prove to the court that you did write it originally. Then you don't have to worry about it too much and use it publically (make sure you note it's copyright stuff when you do).

But before you do that here, you better read or terms of service, section "2. COPYRIGHT AND CONTENT SUBMISSIONS" where we can use anything you post here. You better also read the terms of service of the place you're getting free forum hosting from because they'll most likely have something like this (and probably even worse) so double check their terms of services.

You have to pay attention to this stuff when you're on websites. The "I didn't know that, I never read that" excuse may work in school sometimes, but it doesn't work in the real world.

If you want more advice, ask it in the writers forum over at the community section.




4. With your permission I'd like to make you a character for my book. I doubt it will ever get published, but it's worth a try, right? The reason for this is because I need a character who is understanding, kind of like Aslan from the Chronicles of Narnia, "I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation."


You really don't need to ask permission for that but if you want sure.




As for the others involved in this stressful argument, I only shot off like that because I've been under stress too much over this past week and wasn't planning to come online to find out someone wants to smart off and be a pain in the..um..butt -with respect to Kalia_Majere-


Listen, it's simple, you're going to go online and you're going to get people being a pain in the butt to you and I will promise you, it's much worse. Reacting like a child and people WILL treat you like one.



3. If you think "I may too easily fail" then let me. It would only be my fault and problem, which is nothing you need worry about.


We all worry about it here because we've had problem with empty useless thread clogging up the FFRP forums here. That's why a member will come in and offer you advice like Damien did (narring Demon King and Soaring Eagles post, those are bad examples)



Wow, I didnt meen to creat a ruckas of any sort and I think I kinda lit the fuse on it. Damien was right about how to get ppl to join and I wasnt trying to bash him in anyway. But, Demon_King was just being an ass. (Sorry for the language Chung...)


Thanis, you can cuss if you want, that's not against the rules here unless you're doing it just to try and be funny.


xXxDragonLadyxXx, a little advice, if you want to be a writer, you should really make nice with some of the people here. There are a lot of writers on this site and can help you. Damien is one of them and he can give you some great advice about writing. I'm another but I rarely give advice unless I'm asked directly. Aermae does writing too if I understand correctly and working to get her stuff published on the side. So there's a huge source of fellow writers on here but none of them will bother to garner any respect to help you if you keep freaking out like you did here.

Again, you said you're setting up your own forums. If it's one of those host forums type of thing, make sure you read their terms of services.

Chung

Damien
05/13/2006 11:42 AM

Chung's handling things like that bad mamma-jamma that he is. But I do have one thing I'd like to add:



3. The only reason why I wasn't putting a lot of description in this is because I had planned on putting this in a book I'm writing. And to just give off every detail would mean it could be potentially copied and I don't want to just throw it out there for anyone to steal and possibly make millions off of.


To me, this is poor reasoning. If you're that worried about your intellectual property, don't use it at all. Make up a dummy setting (basically a skeleton of your own setting, with changed names and minor alterations) or use a published setting (Dragonlance, Forgotten Realms, Eberron, Middle-earth, Hyboria, The Great Green, Thieves' World, Shannara, etc).

But the poorest RPs are those that have no background at all. Trust me, I've seen plenty in my time, here and otherwise. You need something for the players to latch onto, to dig into, and otherwise use to create characters, understand the world their characters live in, etc.

In my mind "I need to protect my intellectual property" is not a reason for a half-assed RP. Rather, you should keep your intellectual property to yourself and RP with something else. That way your RP is still fully-formed, and your intellectual property is safe from prying eyes. That's the reason I have never and will never post my setting to this site. - I RP in pre-existing settings, or I would make up a new dummied-up setting to RP with. Simple as that.



(I used 'etc' like four times in this post - how utterly lame of me.)

xXxDragonLadyxXx
05/13/2006 1:46 PM

I'll try my best



Ok I have fixed my setting. Could you please tell me what you think? :)

[Edited by xXxDragonLadyxXx on Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:35 PM]

Kalia_Majere
05/13/2006 3:56 PM


1. That last post was ONLY directed to Demon_King and others like him.


Point taken.



2. Not to seem rude, but my thread is MY possession because it's MY ideas that are in it, NOT yours.


Never said that is wasn't your thread, never said it was mine, just that the FFRP area in general is 'mine' so to speak, and I don't like to see such 'arguments' blow out of proportion in my 'area' it makes me look bad :P



3. If you think "I may too easily fail" then let me. It would only be my fault and problem, which is nothing you need worry about.


Actually ;) that is part of my job to help those who may flounder here :D


I can handle criticism, it's Demon_King I can't handle and respectfully ask him to stay out of this thread.


*Nod* that is understandable, however you didn't 'respectfully' ask him to do anything.... as I already pointed out....




As for the others involved in this stressful argument, I only shot off like that because I've been under stress too much over this past week and wasn't planning to come online to find out someone wants to smart off and be a pain in the..um..butt -with respect to Kalia_Majere-


Thank you.




Thanis: Cussing in general is alright, it's calling others nasty names when they didn't even deserve it (I know she said after the fact that it was aimed at Demon_King) that's why I asked her not to do it again.

[Edited by Kalia_Majere on Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:59 PM]

Damien
05/13/2006 6:03 PM

That's a good start, DL. But let me offer you one more piece of advice: Become comfortable with the RP and OOC/RECR parts of your thread. Generally speaking, the actual roleplaying and atmosphere stuff should be done in the RP side of the thread, while actual setting information, the fact that you're recruiting for players, and general information about the setting and what kind of players/characters you're looking for should go in the OOC section.

A good rule of thumb is; if you wouldn't write it in a novel, it goes into the OOC section.

Do it however you want, of course, as this (to my knowledge) isn't actually a rule. But it helps everyone to find what information they're looking for, as well as keeping clutter down. Both the OOC and the RP sides of this thread are in your control, so don't be shy about using them both and posting messages in the appropriate areas of your thread.

xXxDragonLadyxXx
05/13/2006 6:25 PM

Ok thank you so much Damien! -huggles- :D


ok fixed it!


---- In Tserillia there are all sorts of creatures. You can choose from this list of Tserillian creatures;
mage, magess, elf, human/warrior, dragonrider, angel, wolf, dragon, unicorn, pegasus, witch, warlock, elemental, or a dwarf.
> When choosing your character please carefully consider balance. For example, you can't have an indestructable undying creature. You must balance their positives and their negatives. As good example, a mage/magess who can use magic, but use their energy to use magic. So if they were to do to much magic they could possibly exhaust themselves to death. If you have any questions on how to balance your character please message me or post an OOC. As for everyone else, please describe your character in the beginning of your first rp post. Have fun. :)


[Edited by xXxDragonLadyxXx on Saturday, May 13, 2006 6:29 PM]

Thanis
05/14/2006 10:11 PM

My charactor isnt any of the things you put down as what is in your world. If you stricktly want one of those charactor basis I will change my charactor. If you dont really care that Chaos is of my own creation called "Thanin". He does have his strengths and weaknesses, though. I will post them if you desire me to. Im really hoping that you will allow me to play him and just give you his details kind of thing rather than just saying 'no'. If that does not suit you then I will have no problem changing him. Thanx!

xXxDragonLadyxXx
05/15/2006 3:39 PM

Your chracter is absolutely fine the way he is, Thanis :)

Thanis
05/15/2006 5:19 PM

ok *Bows* thank you!

Thanis
05/31/2006 6:51 PM

I cant really go off of that ya know? The story isnt advancing, need more plz.

xXxDragonLadyxXx
05/31/2006 7:47 PM

Working on it ;)

Thanis
05/31/2006 10:53 PM

k

xXxDragonLadyxXx
06/01/2006 9:13 PM

I'm going to be out of town this entire weekend

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