So DC's Green Arrow is getting his own tv show. The trailers are vague enough to be either good or bad. And the show seems to have more in common with Nolan's Batman-verse than core DC. No mention of metahumans or others.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this one. A "Batman Begins"-esque tv series with Green ARrow probably without the sillier elements of his quiver does appeal a bit. I just hope they will play up his socialist tendencies.Unlikely, however, this being made in America, it's easier to get shows where the protagonmists are hardened sociopaths rather than well-meaning socialists.
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Silveran
RE: Arrow
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Friday May 25, 2012 3:44 AM
Heh, you're right in that Americans refuse to like anything socialist in nature.... despite the simple fact we already have a number of socialist programs (remember the "Teabagger" protesting Universial Healthcare with the sign saying "Keep the Government Out of My Medicare"?)
I hate to say it, but I am not looking forward to this. Superhero shows have a history of being crap... or, turning to complete crap very quickly. Look at Heroes. Started pretty good, then turn to shit at the end. It's hard to not jump the shark in a superhero story on film.
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TheShadowlord
RE: Arrow
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Saturday May 26, 2012 12:08 AM
Indeed, which is why a Batman Begins approach might be best. Keep it mostly real-world - no superpowers or really stupid gimmick-villains. Focus on his motivations and personality, then the creation of the costume and the myth.
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Silveran
RE: Arrow
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Saturday May 26, 2012 6:16 AM
If it's done well, then it will be worth the time. If it's done poorly, then it will damage the chances of another show doing it well.
For example, Batman Begins reopened the door to DC superhero movies. But, The Punisher (1989) with Dolph Lundren helped put a road block in the way for Marvel movies. Yet, both were "mostly real-world" without the powers or gimmick.
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Avenging_Angel
RE: Arrow
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Monday May 28, 2012 7:38 PM
On one hand, the trailers look kind of cool.
On the other hand... I hate Green Arrow and other bow-and-arrow related "superheroes". Just him a little more, on account of being DC therefore generally more silly (not as if that's saying alot, with some of Hawkeye's comics).
Keep it to the Renfaires, boys, not the crime fighting.
But at least we got the first season out of it? As far as I'm concerned, the first season of Heroes is a pretty good summary of all things good about the superhero story. I feel like we'll never know how it should have actually progressed, thanks to the damn writer's strike right in the middle of it.
Typical.
[[Edited by Avenging_Angel on Monday May 28, 2012 7:40 PM]]
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TheShadowlord
RE: Arrow
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Wednesday May 30, 2012 8:51 PM
DC has Vertigo, sweetie. That trumps anything Marvel has done.
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