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| TheShadowlord |  Avatar |
 Member Since: October 2000  RK: 13 MP: 6,171     | Wednesday January 6, 2010 1:10 PM Saw it in 3D yesterday and came away with two thoughts1) frickin' awesome FX 2) bland, forgettable story and plot holes galore some spoliers 3D is getting bettter and better, though the things looked kind of flat, even if they were 'in 3D'. Some of the time i almost started swatting at bugs and stuff on screen. 3D also semed to be used almost haphazardly, with it being really noticeable some places, and forgotten elsewhere. The story was probably written on the back of an old handkerchief, for all it had of originality, interesting characters and the plot holes are big enough to shove a Na'vi through. And Chekov didn't just have a gun, he had a frickin' armory.  I feel happy...I feel happy! "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts |
| LionessStar |  RE: Avatar |
| Member Since: March 2010  RK: 1 MP: 1 | Tuesday March 2, 2010 3:48 PM I saw it 3 times it was that good! |
| TheShadowlord | RE: Avatar |
Member Since: October 2000 RK: 13 MP: 6,171 | Wednesday March 3, 2010 4:16 AM We will have to agree to disagree. Two months after having seen it, I can't remember the names of any characters beyond the main guy (Jack Sully), there were no memorable scenes, no memorable lines, no memorable characters, no memorable monsters or hardware.Heck, if I'd seen it without sound I could have added the dialogue in my head and it would probably have some out just about the same. I feel happy...I feel happy! "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts |
| Flark | RE: Avatar |
    Member Since: April 2005  RK: 10 MP: 3,043  | Monday March 8, 2010 12:59 PM I thought it was great. The best new movie I have seen at the cinema in a LONG time.As for plot holes Shads - there was none which stuck out enough for me to worry about or even remember, and I'm generally pretty good at ripping holes in movies when I feel that way inclined. I know you said you wouldn't tolerate excuses... but I have a really good one! |
| Avenging_Angel | RE: Avatar |
 Member Since: July 2003  RK: 12 MP: 5,933 | Monday March 8, 2010 5:16 PM I'm still torn about this one... I saw it twice, once in 2D, once in 3D. While I did like it, I still don't think it's quite the second coming it's being painted as.The design was absolutely amazing, no argument there - I don't think I've seen such an insane-yet-believable environment with so much attention paid to details since the Dark Crystal. (yeah, I'm old-school, so sue me) The shots of the forest were incredible, especially in 3D, how everything down to the smallest insect was realistic yet bizarre at the same time. No words for the pure joy that brought my geeky heart. There was a lot of good acting, too, with a solid cast. Sam Worthington really surprised me, possibly because the only other thing I've seen him in was Terminator. But, unfortunately, all of this was overshadowed by a decidedly lame plot. It's trite but true that if you've seen Dances with Wolves, you've basically seen this movie already. It's pretty enough that you'll likely not notice the first time around, but on multiple viewings you'll walk away feeling a little disappointed and oddly unfulfilled. (not unlike being with your mother last night, except this was more expensive) All in all, it was good, but I don't think it has quite the staying power to merit the comparisons to things like Star Wars. "Life is pain, highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something." I can kill 'cause in god I trust. |
| TheShadowlord | RE: Avatar |
Member Since: October 2000 RK: 13 MP: 6,171 | Tuesday March 9, 2010 4:12 AM Color me old school too, then. "Dark Crystal" had interesting characters and a cool plot. Avatar was just pretty. And I've only seen it once, and I noticed the Dances with Wolves bit. Heck, I noticed it the moment I read the synopsis. And favorable comparisons to SW are borderline heresy. SW had cool and memorable people and great lines and engaging plot as well as being groundbreaking in its special effects. Avatar has only the latter. I feel happy...I feel happy! "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts |
| Aeramae | RE: Avatar |
 Member Since: December 2003 RK: 10 MP: 3,124 | Tuesday March 9, 2010 8:06 PM If I want to see Avatar, I'll go put in Pochantas. At least I can sing to that.Leader of the Amazonian Army, and fighter for the Female Initiative.
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| Kitiara | RE: Avatar |
  Member Since: May 2000  RK: 6 MP: 1,425 | Tuesday March 9, 2010 11:41 PM I really enjoyed the CGI. But like most everyone else I have to agree, don't bother watching it for the plot. Sam Worthington and the girl didn't impress me all that much (but the only other thing I'd seen him in was Gettin' Square, and he was so bad in that I almost ran myself through with the dvd box to make the badness stop). The storyline was shallow and predictable.But the effects were truly amazing. I don't know how it would be in 2D, I figure with a movie like that if you're going to spend the money have the full experience. As someone else said, could have muted it and enjoyed it just as much, but visually it was definitely worth a look. Doesn't live up to the hype though, too many other things lacking. Anyone you can describe as chipper is to be avoided. You never know when they'll crack. Eventually, they're gonna start gnawing on the nearest thing they can, whether it's a hood ornament or wristwatch, wrist still attached; a moment when that uniform they've made for themselves breaks down and they fall to pieces, right out of it. Give me the life-haters any day. They'll play you straight. -Oobie |
| Zayzie | RE: Avatar |
 Member Since: July 2010 RK: 1 MP: 10 | Thursday July 15, 2010 11:58 PM Yeah, I see this plot mirroring Pochantas in a ton of ways. Man vs Nature, Man vs Man, calling them "savages" and their living with nature and etc. Although it doesn't really dig to deep into the environmental theme, it's kind of a B-movie in that respect. Fun to watch from a certain perspective, but nothing to think too hard about. The main villain, seems vastly underdeveloped, and the premise for mining for the ore seems overly simple. I was expecting a bit more politics and philosophical pressure put into that idea, and hoping they would backup their reasons with more than "they're sitting on a gold mine let's chase them out." And if that was the case I'd also expect characters who are much more conflicted due to social pressure, but it didn't seem like it was that hard of a decision to side with the blue people. Even though he did want his legs back, he could just live in his Avatar the whole time so it didn't seem like an issue anymore, I mean, why bother even being human anymore? The environment itself is wonderful though, pretty rich. I think it's similar to Harry Potter (not as vast) in that many people could instantly be inspired to make characters or fandoms based off of it, and expand the world and create much more interesting characters and plots for it. Kind of like the vampire-craze going around because of Twilight and Trueblood. (And I haven't lasted through a Twilight book so don't quote me on that, but I heard the politics behind vampires and werewolves in the book is interesting like Harry Potter, but kind of immature-ish(?)) I did like Turok, he was pretty awesome. But yeah, for a movie that's been 10 years in the making it's definitely overhyped for what it is, which is just pretty. Many years ago I had the chance of experiencing Reign of Fire, and while it was not in 3D, it had some amazing 3D animated dragons that had so much life breathed into them. I watched the movie so many times just thinking to myself, "how did they do it?" So any movie that utilizes 3D animation, has a lot to live up to me in my eyes, since it's been like 5 years or so since Reign of Fire, and most movies are just now matching it in terms of quality realistic 3D animation. I can appreciate a great 3D environment and wonderful landscape, but if nothing interesting is going on, then I will probably lose interest. My dad fell asleep 25 minutes into the movie, and he even really wanted to see it. ----"I play*plot*scheme ::::horror::suspense::psychological::thriller::characters::supernatural:::: and I want to help others improve"--- I'm a sponsor |
| TheShadowlord | RE: Avatar |
Member Since: October 2000 RK: 13 MP: 6,171 | Monday July 19, 2010 6:47 AM The Unobtanium plot wasn't a big deal. it's a tried and true element in SF. something inordinately valuable found only on Planet X (hence the name, which gave me a chuckle). And the Blue Indians were aliens. you'd be surprised at how minimal differences you need for people to not give a shit about some other group of people.It wasn't these things that bothered me. It was the total lack of interesting characters, the gaping plot holes and the feeling that you've seen everything before. It was pretty, but nothing else. don't get me wrong, I'm not the kind of person that needs everything I experience to have something new and groundbreaking. I can be overjoyed to watch the most clicheed and unoriginal story ever so long as it is done well. Star Wars is a prime example of this. I feel happy...I feel happy! "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts |
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